Helldoor's Test Field | Interior

[Helldoor]

Thanks for the input!

@ Grigio, is this a rendering of yours? If so, could you tell how you become such a nice natural lighting and colours? It's bright and sunny, but not washed out - that's awsome! Your floor texture also looks way very realsitic - although bump and disp seem pretty low set - am I right?
As for the BF + LC setup - I'll test it tonight!
@ Micha, I'll try that. But why the guy in the back?

[Micha]

I thought you spoke about him, but I see, you mean the area around him. So, the disabled IM is an option that could kept in mind and tested.

You could try the Aerial env feature, maybe it breaks black in the background and fills the room.

[Grigio18]

I am lighting the scene with my hdr image, you find it on my website, it's free: www.grigio18.it

Then it's just a little tweaking with the vfb options, curves, color correction, burn, contrast, lut, etc...

[Helldoor]

You could try the Aerial env feature, maybe it breaks black in the background and fills the room.

Cool idea. Never thought of using Aerial Perspective as a kind of interior distance fog...

I am lighting the scene with my hdr image, you find it on my website, it's free: www.grigio18.it

Cool page and portfolio, thanks for the link. For my scene, I also began with a Dome Light, but - if you take a look at the original fotos (page 1), you'll see, that light streames pretty uniform from all the windows, regardless of which side of the house they're on. Using my HDRIs (even the cloudy ones), there was always a 'main' light source side and not enough light streamed through the windows of the opposite sides. So, to solve this issue, I now work with a GI Skylight, multiplied by 9...

[Micha]

@Helldoor: I not tested it yet. I#m curious how it works.
@Grigio: Thank you for sharing the HDRI. Looks great for interior shots. You are shooting HDRI by yourself? If yes, I have an idea - if you like you could try to shot an environment in a few meters height. This kind of HDRI are nearly not available, but could be very useful for interior rendering where the interior is in the first floor or higher. Could be shot from a something like a VW Bus roof or a garage or ... .

[Helldoor]

So, I rendered last night using Grigio's settings. The render time is now more than halved (still a lot, compared to IM+LC), the outcome however - pretty noisy.

| Brute Force (primary) + Light Cache (secondary) [1600 x 1130 | Noise: 0,02 | AA: 1,5 Lanczos | LC: Subdivs: 3000 / Sample: 0,01 / Retrace: 8] : 03:32 h

I didn't find, where to put the Min/Max Samples parameter in the V-Ray 3.4 beta...
Also, what Standard Camera setting did you use, Grigio? I use these currently: Sensitivity: 6000 / F Number: 8 / Shutter Speed: 60.

[Micha]

You did't use the denoiser. Seems to be a must for BF.

The tables looks to non reflective. I would try to get a waxed look on it. Under this flat view angle there should be some reflections visible.

For you textiles - are you using a fresnel effect or fallof for a better cloth look? If not, add a diffuse layer at the top of the material: grey color and transprancey with fallof->fresnel (if it looks worng enable "invert"). You should get a soft look.

[Grigio18]

Sorry, I meant Max Subdiv...

is this image the denoised render element?

Camera settings really depends on the light in the scene,just try to expose correctly, with no strong highlights and no ultra dark areas.

try the new method, ev value, for the interior.
with my hdr for the last render I 11 ev.

[Helldoor]

@ Micha: Objection! =] Denoiser was on - Custom, Strenght: 1, Radius: 5 .. but maybe I have to use a stronger denoiser here.
As for the reflections - I, personally, prefer matt materials, but I guess glossier ones look better, more realistic in visus...
And the curtain material is on of the implemented in the new V-Ray material library. I'll try, what you suggested.

@ Grigio: I'll donwlaod your HDRI and try it out.

[Grigio18]

@helldoor, after you activate the denoiser, you will find the denoiser render pass in addition to RGB and to 'alpha,select it in the dropdown menu in the upper left of the vfb and save.

[Helldoor]

@helldoor, after you activate the denoiser, you will find the denoiser render pass in addition to RGB and to 'alpha,select it in the dropdown menu in the upper left of the vfb and save.

And after that apply in PS?

[Grigio18]

No, the denoiser render element in simply the final pass.

[Helldoor]

No, the denoiser render element in simply the final pass.

Oh, I see. So using Denoiser, one should use the Denoiser Channel as a 'Final Rendering'. So here it is:

| DENOISER CHANNEL | Brute Force (primary) + Light Cache (secondary) [1600 x 1130 | Noise: 0,02 | AA: 1,5 Lanczos | LC: Subdivs: 3000 / Sample: 0,01 / Retrace: 8] : 03:32 h

[Micha]

Denoised version looks good.

Here a screenshot of a typical cloth material, I changed the grey color to green so that you better can see the cloth effect.

[Helldoor]

Denoised version looks good.

Here a screenshot of a typical cloth material, I changed the grey color to green so that you better can see the cloth effect.

But wouldn't you use a 2sided for curtain for the transparency? In my experience, foliage (tree leaves especially) and curtians always had to be assigned with a 2Sided.